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4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: nlworld.info/top/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha.html
Written with Sean Elliott twitter.com/SeanMElliott/ • Graphics by William Marler wmad.co.uk
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I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
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why do you private your videos before you upload them
How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.
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Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?
1:57 maybe 4 different loading bars? For each process?
I didn’t expect that Tom Scott.exe could be rebooted. The more you know 🌟
Among Us downloading task be like: Estimated time: 4 days *2 seconds later* Estimated time: 6 seconds
Gosh Tom, call me out why don't you!
I like to combine the speed in rate of transfer or time remaining while also having my harddrive light & CPU task manager to see which is bottle-necking at what point. This is a form of entertainment I guess
I love the bars that stop at 100% for 10 minutes or so
What is this golden piece of chanel that just dropped on my recommendations, SUBBED!
It’s actually placebo its jus randomly stoping at random intervals and thats why it stops at 99% cuz it’s actually at 70% or 50% or maybe even 30%
Things to do do, to make progress bar faster: Buy an ssd Upgrade ram (and probably buy more ram than you have on a computer) Buy better proccesor Buy better router/modem and get faster internet Buy faster hdd(s) Install linux Congratulations!!! Your game/program now loads/downloads/installs faster!
Working on updates 2% complete 1 hour later Working on updates 10% complete Working on updates 100% complete
Can i express how perfectly aligned the timer is in video to the NLworld timer?
I just like windows' there are 7 years left for finish copying your files. While showing me the speed and amount of data left, which definitely won't be 7 years if i divide data amount by speed.
Modern warfare updates: 1%.......2%.........not enough storage delete 148gb of data
what about a 2D progress block, width for data (so maybe mb or gb) and height for file count, never seen one, just thought of it
Best solution would be to put a title to every segemt of the progress bar. Anyone who watches porn on the hub will have found this out. If you dont care about foreplay you know exactly on te second to skip to, to skip that part. So for a progress bar for a install. Just title the segement so that we know what part the computer is working on and we know what we might think of upgrading
"The most important job is to reassure that yes, things are happening, progress it being made" That moment when the progress bar is stuck at 99% for about 28 minutes...
The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one And no, not the blue one The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop
100% ... Restarting... 30% .... ... .. 58% ............... 79% ................ 100% .................................................................... Aaaaand it crashed
Steam
you should create a program that changes the line on the video
Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving
Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left
Are you reporting from 1998?
Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move
0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????
"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.
Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.
This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember
who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously
Why this guy is soo much underrated
Good old Microsoft Minutes
How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?
Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.
My loading bar just goes backwards
looking at you STEAM
LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%
Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down
Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!
The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.
This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅
Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*
I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!
3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10
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That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).
Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally
Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours
Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.
100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂
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4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp
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my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.
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Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is
is this the guy who says “xnyopit”
Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.
I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.
Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video
Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.
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What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load
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You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!
The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!
A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.
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Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.
Intro music from the Chase?
Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.
I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁
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Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..
The video progress bar is half a second off
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I have four letters for you: RTOS. A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.
why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair
Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?
What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?
Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?
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Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.
Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence
When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.
This is a repost?
3:42 Too real Tom..
I didn't need to know this
Do one on browser compilers and header data
Excellent! Thank you.
I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying
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*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*
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Am I supposed to know what this means?
Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.
Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!