The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

15 apr. 2021
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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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  • I would 100% agree if I didn’t own the coupe version... Really such a great looking car from every angle!

    Matt's GarageMatt's Garage15 minuten geleden
  • Loved my 1990 300E.... great car. The giant V8 in the 500 looks like a complete bear to work on.

    Trey ScudderTrey Scudder2 uur geleden
  • Nice video, thanks. I, myself, drive W124 3.2 Sportline 1995.

    Jason GoweserJason Goweser5 uur geleden
  • *cough* LS400 *cough*

    Clayton BridgesClayton Bridges6 uur geleden
  • Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".

    Ozi YılmazOzi Yılmaz11 uur geleden
  • That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad

    Simon ArdforsSimon Ardfors11 uur geleden
  • Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles

    J MillsJ Mills13 uur geleden
  • lovely driving this masterpiece

    ghetto journalist tvghetto journalist tv14 uur geleden
  • I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.

    Edward KokolEdward Kokol14 uur geleden
  • Gave the thumbs up just for the title

    alan Qtrmainealan Qtrmaine16 uur geleden
  • Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

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    Ghoosh WenGhoosh WenDag geleden
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    Andy HillsAndy HillsDag geleden
  • Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

    Terence ChengTerence ChengDag geleden
  • My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

    Cesar AbrahamCesar AbrahamDag geleden
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  • Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

    Mohammad Al FattalMohammad Al FattalDag geleden
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  • Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

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  • Very good video

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    no taboosno taboosDag geleden
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    LoneWolfSigmaLoneWolfSigmaDag geleden
  • Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

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  • It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

    josava1josava1Dag geleden
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  • My all time favourite W123 and W124

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  • to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.

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    SurfmanSurfman2 dagen geleden
  • I own a showroom 1990 300ce24V: a 3.0 litre six straight engine providing some lovely and smooth 232 HP with catalytic converter: it was around the time when in the US most of the V8 5 litres were giving some 140 HP at their best. Is that correct? All the stuff, accessories and amenities you are enthusiast about in this car, were standard in mine too. No miracle just for your 500E but "standard fitting" for any top of class models of the period.

    PGCPGC2 dagen geleden
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    Antonio BonvecchioAntonio Bonvecchio2 dagen geleden
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  • Jason...why no love for the W124 M119 4.2L? Those cars didn't have the short gearing so they were capable of being faster, if not quicker. While I don't dare drive my 27 year old '94 E420 like you did the 500, it still delivers the goods. Two wishes: Mercedes-Benz would offer more support for the OBD I cars and a glove box. MBNA spun the barrel reducing the W124 price by $10K in 1993 to chase Lexus wisely. I doubt the accountants would let that kind of currency hedge happen today.

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  • We had a Diesel version and it lasted until 500,000 kilos with no big maintenance bills, never had one here that lasted that long, even the Toyota's here don't get over 350,000 and that last one is usually the longer lasting one.

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    goarif1goarif12 dagen geleden
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    Jd WhiteJd White2 dagen geleden
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    azharudheen Sazharudheen S2 dagen geleden
  • Those rear head rests are so annoying when they retract

    The-bro-jasonThe-bro-jason2 dagen geleden
  • I had the same engine in my 1990 500SL. Incredible engine.

    quantumphaserquantumphaser2 dagen geleden
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  • I almost bought the 560SEC Series 10 years ago but could not afford the insurance (and I suspect the fuel consumption) but what a car it was especially in this coupe version. With the massive black star logo it looked like a beast, sounded like a beast... Bloody insurance scums.

    BonuxCouleurBonuxCouleur2 dagen geleden
  • This was my grandfather's car. I have good memories of riding shotgun while he drove me around town.

    Your Average Passer-ByYour Average Passer-By3 dagen geleden
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    Quivver77Quivver773 dagen geleden
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    032HULK032HULK3 dagen geleden
  • Lexus LS400 > Mercedes 500E

    DDOT EELDDOT EEL3 dagen geleden
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    Scotty MSUScotty MSU3 dagen geleden
  • Engines, to be fully efficient, should be silent, cold and still in the frame (no vibrations).

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    Rod DooleyRod Dooley3 dagen geleden
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    James CopseyJames Copsey3 dagen geleden
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    Original JOriginal J3 dagen geleden
  • nice

    kmcbatch2017 kmckmcbatch2017 kmc3 dagen geleden
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    Roar ChristoffersenRoar Christoffersen3 dagen geleden
  • Ls400 is a better machine. Change my mind

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  • i owned 93 300E, loved the car

    Tomas TylecekTomas Tylecek3 dagen geleden
  • W126 500 is better!

    Mr AutospecMr Autospec3 dagen geleden
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