Max's Overtake, Mazespins and Leclerc's Moves | The F1 Breakdown | Bahrain GP 2021
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Technically, there was nothing wrong with the lines taken at turn 4. Pre-Race, the drivers were told in a race directive that running wide wouldn't be monitored at turn 4 as the "defining limits" of that turn would be classed as the gravel and artificial grass. Lewis, and half the field, all understood this and used it during the race. Red Bull seems to have been so excited over the pole that they misread the clarification given regarding a change to this limit for practice sessions (Quali). It wasn't till 30 laps in that they realized they stuffed up and instructed Max to start running wider. At the same time, Lewis got a warning, and rightly so because a couple of the laps prior had been run exceptionally wide. Mercedes took this as meaning to return to the practice session rules, and Lewis duly began sticking to the curbs. But NONE of that has anything to do with why Max had to hand back the position. The race directive also pointed out that SR Article 27.3 would still be followed, and this is why Max lost. He ran off track to complete an overtake. He knows it, Redbull knows it.
This is great. great videos from Mr. Mansell. Keep em coming.
Today one reporter mentioned that Aston has different pedal setup and quite possibly this was the cause of the crash. It seems that normally break is on the left and accelerate on the right. In Aston it's done in opposite manner probably due to the fact that son of the millionere has stronger right leg. Apparently Seb was training in sim quite a lot but possibly muscle memory is stronger. Could you make a move on that one?
Damn bro im sure we all would love this if you made this into a series maybe 1 video per race or at least the exciting ones
@driver61 yes I agree 11:00 there should be a thin strip of grass or astroturf to curb drivers from doing this. They need to clam down but Michael isn’t the sharpest arrow and the bag in my opinion. We’re not saying a whole grass section just a thin strip.
This is great. I really like this format, so yeah! Well done, that man! You're onto a winner here, I believe.
Hamilton runs the corner wide 29 times which gains him a lasting advantage. No penalty. Max does it, but because "they are racing each other and Max gained and lasting advantage" its an illegal overtake. F1 rules are as confusing as the English language. The same word means two different things.
This is an amazing F1 breakdown video! I learned a lot.
Tyre degradation for the Mercedes is differetnt than RBR.
tbh i think everyone is talking about track limits at turn 4 where hamilton gone wide 29 times
Vettel has a brake-by-wire problem. He has never properly adapted to 2014-spec braking.
Russell is out of contract, pissed off, and will replace Vettel at AMR before Monaco. With a raise in pay. Bye Toto.
Guess you missed that Ham said he deliberately forced Max outside the track to get his position back. He left Max no choice ..
Seems to me to be no point having rules ( and this one is very clear) if they are not going to be enforced! Great job keep it up.
It's pretty clear Max had a lasting advantage running outside the track when passing Hamilton. But the lack of consistency in this case is what baffles me, surely being able to run wide for 29 laps (while not passing another car ofc) is also a lasting advantage, it means you can get on the throttle earlier and carry more speed. And being able to set the fastest lap using a wider line is also a lasting advantage, isn't it? I mean that's 1p in the WDC. SUrely that's a lasting advantage?? FIA needs to use strict lines, heck even F1 2020 game is more consistent on these things....
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BoatAss is the perfect teammate for Hamilton.
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12:52 The last time I checked it wasn't 2 tires. The FIA code says, if "no part of the car" is within the boundaries of the circuit, the car is judged to have left the circuit. Most people interpret this as one tire. Obviously it doesn't make any difference when it comes to this incident, but still. Totally agree on the need for consistency. F1 has a perennial problem with inconsistent stewarding on track limits abuse, as well as pushing opponents off the track.
Thanks for your explanations! Could you, being a racingdriver yourself, maybe elaborate on the following: Did Max leave the track-limits, in order to overtake Hamilton, or did he overtake, got pushed wider than he wanted to or than he would have needed to, and therefore crossed track limits? Thx!
i’m no fan of mazepin, but if it was any other rookie in that car no one would mention it! it feels like ppl just want to attack him for anything. rightly or wrongly idk
Hamilton "overtook" verstappen when he undercut him, running wide there to gain him the time he needed. Then he kept running wide so his tyres would last longer and he wouldn't be so much slower by the end of his stint, which he would be because he undercut. All of this resulted in a position change without an actual overtake, so why the hell wasn't it punished? Rules have to be the same for overtakes or for hotlaps because racing with pitstops laptime matters as much as actual track position.
I'm sure he doesn't mean it like it. But this sounds like verstappen purposely left the track. I could be me, but when I looked at the replays I saw verstappen already passing hamilton, ham then turned wide and verstappen went around, and by doing so oversteered and when compensating for that he had to leave the track. Either way it doesn't matter now, and in my point of view the blame is at race control for being inconsistent and changing the rules halfway the race. I look forward to the Dutch grand prix at zandvoort, if you go outside of the track there are one of three things waiting for you, dirt, sand or gravel.
Love this. I will watch every race breakdown you do!
grass on Bahrain.... deserts aren't really known for having lots of grass
So its ok if Hamilton goes off track but if someone else does it then its an issue. What a joke.
Giving such interesting analysis is really great. Thankyou very much BUT I was not able to follow it because I was not able to recognise the cars you were talking about in most of the images. The occaisional arrows you added to indicate the cars you were talking about were useful BUT you it would be much, much much better if there were indicators there all the time you were speaking. I'm not an expert and can't recognise the cars easily so I, and I expect very, very, very many more like me, would enjoy your analysis very much more with continuous indicators.
Replace all the white lines with a stinger. That will keep them on the track and stop them all cheating.
Amazing analysis as always! Thank you
Put back grass or gravel on the forbiden zones. Or put sensors and penalize with 10 seconds
Thank you for pointing out the none-existing consequences of Hamiltons mistake. I was much more annoyed by that than I was about Max having to give back the position. I understand why we have these kind of runoffs for safety reasons, but why not have a chip in the car that tracks when you leave the track and when you do, you get 30% less power for 10 seconds or so? Just to emulate what grass would do. It would even be much less severe than grass because grass can easily end your whole race.
My God your boring
Hi scott , Yes I'd love it if you continue this series. It is great - thanks for doing it :-)
Nice video, as your skillset is inheritly included in the production value of the film, it gives a great overall impression.
Make it simple off is off 100 seconds the first time 300 the 2nd DQ the third.
Shameful favoritism of the FIA and the track marshals for Hamilton. The only one sanctioned and in ten seconds they resolved !! Years waiting for parity in F1 and a fair victory is taken away from Verstappen. But the favored one is English and also non-white, in these times of political correctness and anti-white racism that helps to decide. So sensitive to politics the current F1, they fired the hostesses, they allow Hamilton and other drivers to do left-wing politics in every race. Never seen F1 do politics this way. If I'm not mistaken: Hamilton 30 times crossing the limits NOT SANCTIONED. Bottas record back jumping the limits NOT SANCTIONED. Verstappen passes Hamilton jumping the limits SANCTIONED AND ON RECORD TIME.
Totally agree with you about the track limits - if you go wide, you will be penalized. Even in sim racing rules are more clear than F1.
HOW, how can you love Vettel as a driver. He makes mistake after mistake after mistake... He should drive at the front of the grid with nobody really putting pressure on him to avoid making mistakes. Like the situation he had going for him at RB when he became multiple world champ for some reason that I can't explain any further than the RB being absolutely flinging dominant those days
You claim to be a "pro driver". So, who are you and who do you drive for? In what series?
Too much runoff on the newer tracks. Time to go back to grass strips so we don't need to rely so heavily on stewards.
Thank you very much on your very knowledgeable thoughts on the overtake made by Verstappen on Hamilton that was penalised. My thinking is that if you go off the track and you gain an advantage by overtake then you are penalised but if you go out of track and don't gain an advantage then you are not penalised. That's it.
The discussion about change the rule about the track limit is one thing. But for me Verstappen had already overtaken Hamilton on the track (not like FIA said outside the track) and did not gain a "lasting advantage" because he was already in front of Hamilton before leaving the track. And this "lava outside track" could only work, if the driver overtaken also has to leave enough space to the other - which Hamilton definitly did not do.
The problem with F1 is....it’s become NASCAR all gimmicky with pay drivers who have absolutely no talent.
Mr. 'No Family of'. I really enjoyed your other vids, but this is a masterpiece and I almost forget to breathe watching your analizing this. Thank you and keep up the good work!
12:00 ham moved under braking ;-)
Insightful, clear analysis. If we could have a top view then the less experienced among us could understand the positions better. In any case, great to watch- and learn!
Few words about Mercedes: nlworld.info/key/video/yoyUirS3oXqmjms with subtitles in English or in your own language. AMG S63 ... das Auto or not
THE OVERTAKE WAS DONE already when he went slightely of track #fact .Max just been extra over nice against that crybaby Ham another #fact
Best analysis of F1 by far, without the hype and partisan comments
Only two things you can really do in any competition. Advance your own Strategy Or Respond to your opponents strategy. Which you do depends on who has the initiative.
Turn 4 needs a "Wall of Champions". Problem solved
this could've been a feature on Perez!!
Thanks. This is the best breakdown I have heard (of the million out there!).
Couldn't watch it live. But it always sounded as if Max had overtaken on the outside... But he was already ahead.
I know personally Michael M I work with the man here in Australia as a CAMS Official, he is good operator. Formula 1 admin are lacking in consistency, decision making and solid application of this regs for all competitors. That has never been ok to do this but 5sec penalty should be sufficient giving Max a chance to make the gap . It is just not fair for Max and Formula1 viewers. Hamilton left the truck 29 times (29 laps) and nothing happened? U got to be joking. Bring back Bernie please!
Rules for hamilton and then rules for the rest. Its a joke!
are you related to Nigel Mansel?
Put curbs back on the track. Hard limits are always better than this interpretation nonsense we have now. If you run off you lose the car. The way life show be. This massive overrun of a corner without a negative result trash we have now is nothing short of pathetic.
every video is a 'new series' -__-
New Champion this year. I can feel it!
Mika Salo (as all you know, ex-driver, current FIA steward) commented that Mazepin is not cut out for F1 and does not belong there... well I agree.
Let's just put back some gravel. No need for rules interpretations then.
i have learned many new things about racing from your videos, keep up the good quality content!
Lewis has shown time and time again that he doesn't like being passed and will push people off the track. Being on the inside of that turn, there is no way Lewis should have been on the line he was on the exit with Max on the outside of him. Not very good champion material on the part of Lewis no matter how many he has won. POS.
awesome insight into what happens and how it happens. Truly refreshing take on a race. Hope we can see one of these after each race? !
That's the plan
On this track overtaking is quite difficult. So, I would say allow running wide in certain corners just to have more overtake attempts and because of this even more excitement! This race Hamilton gained quite some time and graining advantage by running wide in turn 4 (29 times running wide). Obviously it was a mistake of Verstappen of not running wide earlier in the race in turn 4 to gain the same advantage Hamilton got there. Cannot wait for the next race! Thanks for great analysis!
Look. Esteban Ocon did exactly the same move VS Tsunoda in turn 4 and kept his position without a penalty... So off course max his race was robbed. Period
So...conclusion: Verstappen did NOTHING wrong, and Mercedes is the new Fiarari
FOM watchdogs told you to hold back huh? Very non risk diagnose of Hamilton. No Yuki overtake's No Norris Ricciardo No Perrez If you turn the speed up on this video, its still slower than a Aston Martin, competing with a Williams
Hamilton 29 times outside the track, Max already passed him and than went of the track(norris) not fair
“As you can see Bottas going on the inside”. Mazespin in the back “WEEEE”
29 times lh goes off the track, 0 penalty.... Verstappen does it in the same spot lh has been all race... But because he's just passed lh, he is penalized...super inconsistent and shows blatant bias in my mind. Honestly another disgusting display of the FIAs ineptitude.
At what speed does the aero package begin to take meaningful effect, from a full stop on grid?
what curbs are there for otherwise? curbs are the limits. period.
I think the turn 4 rules were dumb. The edge is the edge and should always be enforced. Inconsistency breeds confusion and will slowly push people away from wanting to watch. Hamilton got to use the extra area to stay in the lead, but Max can't use it to get in front? How the hell is that fair?
Does anyone know why the FIA chose turn 4 vs all other corners? Is it bc of previous races where drivers went wide there? Or was it just a random choice lmao
Turn 4 is a downhill curve. Certain wind flows can upset a car's balance, and the car can be pulled forward by gravity and go off the track.
Bring back gravel and the problem is solved!!
Thanks for doing F1 content!
Simple, if there is a wall there like Monaco and or no runoff area then a move like that can’t happen
These track limits and huge run-offs are a big problem on all of Tilke's designs. Pretty boring IMO..
One can make a 1000 rules but with a lack of enforcement it always becomes a mess not only in racing.
Agree with all you said. Lewis constantly goes out the white line on turn 4 and he's a British racing driver, to me that's cheating. Then max does it and penalized
About time you added these to your impressive repertoire. *Brilliant!*
I wish you had analized some of Yuki Tsunoda's moves. It was really fun to watch.
Great video, best breakdown of the race I've seen. I hope you do this for all the races this season!
Is it only five years old kids writing in the comments! Buhu this wasn’t fair! The ruling is done stop whining like babies for God sake!! Embarrassing!
I saw LH running wide several times before race control gave warning.
Iff you watch the complete race hamelton get wide in turn 4..29 times... Also bottas made use off the lack of clear ruling around turn .4.. Noticed by red bull the told verstappen he should do that to... First time max did it the stewards stepped in.... Oke I,m dutch so I wan,t max to win but be honest..is this fair ?
I didn't get the comparison between Hamilton's mistake and running wide, and Verstappen's overtake running wide. The rule is specific about gaining advantage. What sort of advantage is there when you lose time and pace? None. On the other hand, gaining a position is indeed an advantage. What sort of apples to oranges comparison is this?
exceeding track limits, is exceeding track limits, no matter if you are passing someone or not. NO DIFFERENCE
Not a fan of Max, but he was robbed given the number of other drivers who got away with running wide on that corner.
Loved it. So insightful, I'm really looking forward to the next one!
I like the Mouse, MX Master hhhhh
They made it clear that no lasting advantage would be allowed and that they wouldnt record the white line rule at turn 4. It's very clear when you use common sense and dont pick a side. Ver got a lasting advantage vers hams continued use of running out to the edge which is allowed. I dont agree with these results or the fia but who am I, everyone goes on about the white line, yes white line is fine for the straights but conners no, there needs to be a new rule that the Kerbs or rubble strips are the limit not 2 wheels over the line. If its 2 wheels over the line then the width of the cars means they like a van can just go straight over the humps without concern. If the wheels go over the edge then penalty, if on straights they cant keep it in the lines then penalty. Very simple to police and the white line and edge of the curbs is easy for all to see including the drivers.
gotta love how you do it in the uk. F1 ain't no Disco bro.
This series is so good that I had to subscribe. Can't wait for the next race analysis!
Very interesting to hear a racing driver's take instead of usual armchair experts.
Very interesting and informal. Just let them race that's what we want
Pssst! It is I, Leclerc.
The matter of consistency is precisely what I've saying about this incident. Two weights and two measures...
You do have a point, but i have a different opinion. Why create penalties, when you can put grass in it? Why making burocracy, when you can just make a natural penalty? Put grass or other material on borders and drivers will think twice. They will be penalize imediately by losing time, instead of having burocracy, which can be opened to multiple interpretations and definitely make the sport less pure, competitive and too much complex.
I think the rules are clear and fair. It´s important not to be completely rigid with track limits because there´s so many incidents that will need flexibility and oblige drivers to escape to outside limits.. In this race, drivers could use turn 4 outside limits, but like general rules apply: "not to gain advantage".. that´s what happened with Ham, when he was starting to gain advantage was told to stop.. and he stopped at that moment. Max overtake was outrageously outlaw.
Excellent video, you are the only NLworldr I’ve seen to point out that Hamilton went wide and did not lose time for it which in my opinion is unfair because Max pressured Lewis into making a mistake.
You look tired.